Jeep Wrangler Bolt On, Stroker, Turbo & Supercharger

MegaMoe · Post by **MegaMoe** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 1:20 pm

Super Charger
http://shop.505performance.com/displayP ... egoryId=15

Turbo System
http://shop.505performance.com/displayP ... tegoryId=4

Stroker Kit
http://shop.505performance.com/displayP ... ductId=108

This their homepage
http://shop.505performance.com/splashPage.hg

defender · Post by **defender** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:24 pm

Bulldozer · Post by **Bulldozer** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 3:48 pm

Mega R U looking for more horses under the hood

Mpenzi · Post by **Mpenzi** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:58 pm

Expensive kits but impresive

WildFire · Post by **WildFire** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 9:53 pm

Hi,

I like it very much... But, if you instaled the turbo or the super charger kit :

Do you have to install Low Compretion Pistons as well

?
Do you gain more torque and horse power from the turbo or the super charger

?
Will it be functional? ( i mean when off roading for long time )

What about cooling system?

Further more , I think that if you go for a stroker kit you will gain same HP and torque as if you use 7PSI of boost from turbo or super charger.

I'm seriosly thinking of doing a

magor performance upgrade

in the summer.

but , till know im in the studing process.

Regards,

surfer · Post by **surfer** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 10:35 pm

For our weather you will need the intercooler. The turbo/supercharger will give you alot of power, but will the car be able to handle the extra power ?

When i had the turbo fitted in my patrol, the gear was damaged after 1000km, the differential starting whining and the clutch became as consumable as the brake pads. It all depends on your driving style, especially when you take it off road everything will break faster.

I once saw a patrol with 850 HP, but the gear, drive shaft and the differential were changed, this is the right and expensive way of doing it.

WildFire · Post by **WildFire** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:30 am

Hi,

Thank for the reply.

As far as i know there are two types of tunning
one is for pure compitition purpose ( which i am not looking for as it will restrict my use of the car).

The other one is for the daily use ( abuse in my case) and this is what i want but i want the maximum of this type.

Till now I trust two work shops in UAE ( in terms of Quality and honesty )
the first one is bin sulayeem performance and the second one is bin dalmok. therefore , for sure their openion will be very usefull in decaiding what should be instaled and what to avoied

unfortunatly both are very expencive

but, ill try my best to do the upgrades in one of these workshops.

Regards,

Bulldozer · Post by **Bulldozer** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 1:36 pm

WildFire wrote:Hi,
Thank for the reply.

As far as i know there are two types of tunning
one is for pure compitition purpose ( which i am not looking for as it will restrict my use of the car).

The other one is for the daily use ( abuse in my case) and this is what i want but i want the maximum of this type.

Till now I trust two work shops in UAE ( in terms of Quality and honesty )
the first one is bin sulayeem performance and the second one is bin dalmok. therefore , for sure their openion will be very usefull in decaiding what should be instaled and what to avoied

unfortunatly both are very expencive but, ill try my best to do the upgrades in one of these workshops.

Regards,

Why dont u try ALYASI 7performance in musaffah they prepare AMR3B CHAMP cars his name
Hisham 050 6993379

WildFire · Post by **WildFire** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 1:01 am

Hi again,

Actualy iam still thinking of the subject. and i will take my time thinking of what to install and were. because the main problem with performance work shops is cheating 8O ....

Of cource i will ask for every body openion when i am ready.
Thanks for the advice,
Regards,

Chuck · Post by **Chuck** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:28 pm

I believe for the 4,0 Litre Engine the Stroker is the best solution. It is durable, and made out of common parts which are perfectly fit into the block. Nobody can see your plus on power, so it is street legal in some sort of way.

Here i found a very attractive stroker kit for about 9000,-DRH. It sounds expensive in the beginning but all internal parts of the engine are included ( including the crankshaft, all berings oilpump, pistons, camshaft, rods.

Sorry, its german

http://www.4x4garage.de/catalog/product ... ts_id/1984

In the first post of megamoe regarding the stroker kit i am not sure if the crankshaft is included. It is nothing written there. Thats may be why the price is that low.

DinoStroker · Post by **DinoStroker** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 6:28 pm

Chuck wrote:I believe for the 4,0 Litre Engine the Stroker is the best solution. It is durable, and made out of common parts which are perfectly fit into the block. Nobody can see your plus on power, so it is street legal in some sort of way.

Yup. The vehicle inspectors would never suspect that you have a stroker lurking under the hood 'cause it looks exactly the same on the outside as a stock 4.0 engine.
The low rev torque of a stroker built for the street is awesome.

WildFire · Post by **WildFire** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:50 pm

Hi,

As mentioned in your web site

Stage 3

4.5L-5.0L stroker engines: 234-328hp, 300-375lbft depending on build specifications.
Kenne-Bell 5.5psi intercooled supercharger kit: 45% more hp, 53% more torque.
505 Performance 6.0psi turbocharger kit: 44% more hp, 47% more torque.
Nitrous Express (75hp) N2O injection kit: 76hp/117lbft gain.

isnt it recomended to have low compression pistons when installing a turbo or super charger? ( for durability ).......

if its OK with the stroker kit

i think my warenty days are counted.

DinoStroker · Post by **DinoStroker** » Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:02 pm

Since most turbo/supercharger kits for the Jeep 4.0 produce a maximum of about 6psi of boost, it would be safe to keep the compression ratio not higher than about 9.2:1.
You could lower the compression ratio and use more boost, but off-boost response will be weaker.
I'd go 9.2:1 CR, 6psi boost, and a dual pattern cam with about 200 degrees intake valve opening duration @ 0.050" lift and a longer exhaust valve opening duration. Even the stock '87-'95 cam would do nicely.

desertfalc0n · Post by **desertfalc0n** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 12:58 pm

Khaiwi chief, am waiting for your post... You surelyyyyy cannot miss this one bosss...

khaiwi · Post by **khaiwi** » Sun Feb 11, 2007 2:40 pm

desertfalc0n wrote:Khaiwi chief, am waiting for your post... You surelyyyyy cannot miss this one bosss...

Thanks dear for the trust you grant me,

Personally I would not touch the engine before it's too old and needs overhauling. Additionally, the power form the 4.0Ltr. engine with the intake and exhaust mods is sufficient for the type of drives we do. We are not into street races, dune challenges or anything from that sort..... Finally its a personal preference that I like to stay aside and watch.