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Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:41 am
by mike0967
Preferred rope (snatch strap) is ARB 8 ton, followed by ARB >8 ton (but more for Marshals as 2nd rope or those members with heavy cars like Lazy Cow or Badrol), alternative is Bushranger white 8 ton which is in the starter package.

All other, just do not touch, a waste of money.

Mike

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 11:46 am
by Serge
What is the price for ARB?
alternative is Bushranger white 8 ton which is in the starter package.
what stater package are u taliking about? .. what price? Where to get? What's in it?:)


Also need schacles less then 3.5 tonn. They dont fit! If will not find.. have to drill the rec. point a bit :(



And my car is 1.5 ton including me in it:D so 4-8 ton's is enough :)


Serge. :)

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:22 am
by iguana
The Yellow one is not a snatch strap and is not recommended for pulling cars in the desert.

The max weight indicated on the strap is the pulling weight not the car weight. You need a min 8 Ton to pull a suzuki safetly.

Do not drill the towing point, you will weaken it

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:33 am
by Serge
iguana wrote:The Yellow one is not a snatch strap and is not recommended for pulling cars in the desert.

The max weight indicated on the strap is the pulling weight not the car weight. You need a min 8 Ton to pull a suzuki safetly.

Do not drill the towing point, you will weaken it

What to do with it? No Shackel's fit it.

Tryed to fit few of Andy's shackls... no luck.. all too big

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 9:51 am
by iguana
Get a bigger recovery point. Make sure it is rated otherwise you will twist your chasis

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:40 pm
by Xof
Helsting, you think too much... join an ANIT trip, all will be explained to you... then you know what to do. relax man :mrgreen:

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 1:10 pm
by Serge
xof wrote:Helsting, you think too much... join an ANIT trip, all will be explained to you... then you know what to do. relax man :mrgreen:
Will sure join one soon:)

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 2:58 pm
by danhattam
Righty ho, my house mate bought me a shovel for Christmas (he also want to join in on a trip) and so I have bought a tow rope, air pump, and have the factory jack and first aid kit. The Bushranger 8000Kg snatch strap kit (ACE - 299AED: snatch strap, gloves, plastic sheet, stylish bag) didn't come with shackles, which I'm wondering if it should have done?? I am going to check through my own larger first aid kit and bring it up to standard again as the one with the car is really only for cuts and scrapes. I have basic items like torch, stock tool kit supplied with the car, fire extinguisher, ect.

A few questions though:
- do you really need tyre deflators? Please don't gasp in horror when I say I've been using a car key to let them down.
- I saw earlier in the thread that additional jacks were mainly for if you had a lift kit. With my stock JK will the supplied jack be acceptable?
- I'm looking for a cargo net or similar to keep kit secure in the back of my JK; any ideas? I'll get a box to keep everything together and plan to leave the rear seats at home along with the roof.

I'll wait to come on a trip and see what you guys have before investing in a radio and planks of wood so that I can see what works and hear what doesn't.

D

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 3:36 pm
by SCORPIO
danhattam wrote:Righty ho, my house mate bought me a shovel for Christmas (he also want to join in on a trip) and so I have bought a tow rope, air pump, and have the factory jack and first aid kit. The Bushranger 8000Kg snatch strap kit (ACE - 299AED: snatch strap, gloves, plastic sheet, stylish bag) didn't come with shackles, which I'm wondering if it should have done?? I am going to check through my own larger first aid kit and bring it up to standard again as the one with the car is really only for cuts and scrapes. I have basic items like torch, stock tool kit supplied with the car, fire extinguisher, ect.

A few questions though:
- do you really need tyre deflators? Please don't gasp in horror when I say I've been using a car key to let them down.
- I saw earlier in the thread that additional jacks were mainly for if you had a lift kit. With my stock JK will the supplied jack be acceptable?
- I'm looking for a cargo net or similar to keep kit secure in the back of my JK; any ideas? I'll get a box to keep everything together and plan to leave the rear seats at home along with the roof.

I'll wait to come on a trip and see what you guys have before investing in a radio and planks of wood so that I can see what works and hear what doesn't.

D
hi danhattam

i'm sure any marshall will give you a full figure for the above

for the recovery kitt, i got the same from ACE and yes it suppose to come with 2 shackles get back to them before
buying new ones
i use my car key for deflation also :oops: the issue is how you controle the pressure, you need a gauge or tyre diflators would be faster

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 5:55 pm
by Serge
i guess 99% of us use some kind of deflators, depending on wheel sizes and "personal views" :mrgreen: :D

I've got the bushranger gauge - (extreamly slow!) even with my tiny wheels.

You can get ARB i think about 150-200 AED. It has gauge and a nipple screw off. You can also get 4 screw-on deflators, and a small gauge to make sure what pressure you run.

But best is go for a trip, see who is using what, and decide what's best for you.

Cheers!

Serge.

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 6:17 pm
by Xof
your advise is wise Serge... Join a trip, and don't be shy... there is no stupid question to ask...

Though, to allow you to spend a night of sleep without wondering:
- Tyre deflator: a piece of wood can make it too... but it will take you a lot of time!!! so, you need minimum a reliable gauge ( forget about the pen gauge supplied, piece of s...). If you want to go fast, go to ARB, and make your mind about the automatic defletor (you screw 4 small wistles on your tyres, and wait untill it stops by itself), or the deflator that unscrew the pin... I personnaly prefer the second one as it is more reliable.

- High lift jack: no need with the stock JK. The existing jack makes an excellent work. Be sure to know where it is, where to install it, and where is the key to your security spare tyre bolt. For the planks, anything will make it so your jack does not sink in sand.

- Cargo net : go to ACES and get the bungee net. Very good, and a must for safety to have everything tighten in the back. This means that you must have the small items in a bag, or a box...

- next step : i believe the most important item as everything else is already with experienced drivers : THE FLAG!

but this is another topic... cheers. :twisted:

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:06 pm
by danhattam
Thanks for the advice guys. Good thing I kept my receipt in case of such an issue.

Regarding the flag I have been perusing various online shops. Will see whats out on a trip and try to be original, yet not offensive. :?

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Tue May 11, 2010 4:17 pm
by tillybean
When I first joined I bought the ARB 3 in 1 tyre deflator, but I have never quite got the hang of how to use it. Now I have the Staun ones where you pre-set how much you want to deflate to, screw one on each tyre, and bobs your uncle. I then recheck the pressure with the Bushranger tyre gauge and this works much better for me.

For the flag, I ordered one from here www.theflagshop.co.uk and they were great and really fast to post it to me direct to the UAE. For the flagpole, there are a variety of different options and I currently have a fishing rod attached to those sucker cup things that glaziers use to carry round panes of glass. This is fine but does have a habit of popping off sometimes and the car behind usually ends up collecting my flag!

I really like the look of some of the mountings and other options that I have seen other club members use such as an aeriel bracket (Cherif) or a proper welded on holder. I am tempted to try and get something made to attach to the spare wheel.

PS - on the flag, just check out the size. My flag could probably double as a dust cover for my Jeep or a tent for a family of four if necessary!! Slightly large and when up, it slows the rotation of the earth by a couple of minutes!

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2011 1:47 pm
by Channes
Hi MegaMoe,

Thank you for you tips.

Well, know now how to prepare better for my first trip .

Cheers
Christian

Re: A Must have Off-Road Gear. Your check list.

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 11:54 am
by nigel123
A strap used by cranes etc should not be used for towing/snatch as these are designed for lifting not towing and could fail under dynamic loading.

Nigel :D