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REMINDER - BBQ SAFETY

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:32 am
by Jax
Our dear friend Banna sustained quite a nasty burn on his foot at the BBQ area on yesterdays trip -
Inshallah it is getting better, Banna :wink:
Thanks to agghazal and jc for providing prompt first-aid.

PLEASE, PLEASE always wear shoes at all times when we stop for BBQ - especially the children who love to run around barefoot.
- from a previous post by Diver...

BBQ pans or sets not to be put on the sand directly as this might cause severe injury if anyone step on the hot sand. You either put it on a stand, rock or little bit far from the gathering where we can have all the BBQ sets.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:36 am
by iguana
Thanks for the reminder Jax and sorry about what happen Banna. Hope that you will be OK shortly

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 8:54 am
by belbassiouni
Sorry about happened to you, hope to recover soon Banna.

Telling you the truth this is the second time happened during the last few months thanks Jax for this reminder.

Can some one update us on what we need as First aid kit and from where to get it with reasonable price?

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:49 am
by kghaleb
very valid point, thanks jax... :idea:

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:07 am
by DiVeR
Thanks JAX for posting a reminder to this issue 8) Sorry Banna & i hope you will be fine soon :wink:

First aid kit details

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:39 am
by Xof
belbassiouni wrote:
Can some one update us on what we need as First aid kit and from where to get it with reasonable price?
Guys, this one is definitely for me to reply. As i have been working on construction sites and we are quite used to small incident. Here is the typical list of a big professional first aid kit...

Typical contents

Adhesive bandages are one of the most commonly used items in a first aid kit.

1: Dressings (sterile, applied directly to wound)
Pads
Sterile eye pads
Sterile gauze pads
Sterile non-adherent pads
Burn dressing (sterile pad soaked in a cooling gel)

Bandages
Gauze roller bandages - absorbent, breathable, and often elastic
Elastic bandages - used for sprains, and pressure bandages
Adhesive, elastic roller bandages - very effective pressure bandages or durable, waterproof bandaging
Triangular bandages - used as slings, tourniquets, to tie splints, and many other uses
Adhesive bandages (band-aids, sticking plasters)
Straight adhesive bandages
Butterfly (knuckle) bandages

Disposable gloves are often found in modern first-aid kits.

2: Instruments

Adhesive tape, hypoallergenic
Trauma shears, for cutting clothing and general use
Tweezers
Plastic TwezersLighter, for sterilizing tweezers or pliers etc
Irrigation syringe, for cleaning wounds
Rubber suction bulb, for clearing the airway of an unconscious patient

3: Equipment

Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)
Gloves, disposable non-latex
CPR mask or other breathing barrier such as a face shield
Eye cup or small plastic cup
Torch (also known as a flashlight)
Instant-acting chemical cold packs
Sterile eye wash (commonly saline)
Sterile saline (used for cleaning wounds where clean tap water is not available)
Swabs, sterile non-woven
Space blanket (lightweight plastic foil blanket, also known as "emergency blanket")
Alcohol rub (hand sanitizer) or antiseptic hand wipes
Thermometer
Penlight

4: Medication

Antiseptics/antimicrobial
Povidone iodine wipes
Benzalkonium Chloride
Alcohol pads - used to prep unbroken skin for injections etc. or to disinfect equipment such as thermometers.
Antibiotic ointment - single, double, or triple antibiotic ointment in petroleum jelly base *Antiseptic/anesthetic ointment or spray
Anti-itch ointment
Hydrocortisone cream
Antihistamine cream, such as benadryl
Calamine lotion
Painkillers / fever reducers
Acetaminophen
Ibuprofen - anti-inflammatory, often more effective that acetaminophen.
Aspirin
Antihistamine
diphenhydramine (brand name Benadryl)
Aloe vera gel - used for a wide variety of skin problems, including burns, sunburns, itching, and dry skin
Burn gel - a water-based gel that acts as a cooling agent and often includes a mild anesthetic such as lidocaine and, sometimes, an antiseptic such as tea tree oil
Epinephrine auto-injector (brand name Epipen) - often included in kits for wilderness use and in places such as summer camps, to treat anaphylactic shock.
Poison treatments
Activated charcoal
Syrup of ipecac
QuikClot is a hemostatic agent sometimes included in first aid kits, especially military kits, to control severe bleeding.

End Of list.

More pratically, here is what we have to deal for our small trips, and therefore a smaller mandatory first aid kit:
1: Cuts --> you need antiseptic + bandages + Straps. Take a lot of sterile gazes, you need it for everythings!
2: Burns --> gel (biafine or equivalent)
3: Sun burn!!! put solar cream in your first aid kit!!!
4: headaches --> aspirin or paracetamol is a must
5: dust and sand in eyes --> any commone saline
6: Twist, Muscular shocks... --> cold pack (very good!) + gel with arnica
7: space cover (used for everything too)
8: a small Swiss knife (you will always look for something to cut!!!)including a tweezer

These items are A MUST HAVE!! and they must be easy to reach in your car (like your fire extinguishers and your jack). You can find everything in Carrefour or in a pharmacy.

Last advices (but not the least),
check the date on your medications! they need to be replaced often...
you can put some batteries in your kit (always usefull!)
Everytime you use something, you have to replace it immediately.
A first aid kit is for everybody. But it's better if everybody has one.

Remember, you cannot reach Zero Accident/incident (even if you must try to come closer and minimize them). What matter is to get ready to face problems. Especially with Children...

You can also get in touch with the main hospitals if you want to have a First Aid training (very useful).

Hope you have found this usefull. Don't hesitate to contact me or to ask for my first aid during a trip.

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 3:17 pm
by MooD
Thanx Jax for the Post

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:57 pm
by kghaleb
Xof, we need an ambulance to sweep if we go for the whole list... :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: First aid kit details

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:15 pm
by belbassiouni
xof wrote:
belbassiouni wrote:
Can some one update us on what we need as First aid kit and from where to get it with reasonable price?
Guys, this one is definitely for me to reply. As i have been working on construction sites and we are quite used to small incident. Here is the typical list of a big professional first aid kit...

Typical contents

Adhesive bandages are one of the most commonly used items in a first aid kit.

1: Dressings (sterile, applied directly to wound)
Pads
Sterile eye pads
Sterile gauze pads
Sterile non-adherent pads
Burn dressing (sterile pad soaked in a cooling gel)

Bandages
Gauze roller bandages - absorbent, breathable, and often elastic
Elastic bandages - used for sprains, and pressure bandages
Adhesive, elastic roller bandages - very effective pressure bandages or durable, waterproof bandaging
Triangular bandages - used as slings, tourniquets, to tie splints, and many other uses
Adhesive bandages (band-aids, sticking plasters)
Straight adhesive bandages
Butterfly (knuckle) bandages

Disposable gloves are often found in modern first-aid kits.

2: Instruments

Adhesive tape, hypoallergenic
Trauma shears, for cutting clothing and general use
Tweezers
Plastic TwezersLighter, for sterilizing tweezers or pliers etc
Irrigation syringe, for cleaning wounds
Rubber suction bulb, for clearing the airway of an unconscious patient

3: Equipment

Personal Protective Equipment (PPE)
Gloves, disposable non-latex
CPR mask or other breathing barrier such as a face shield
Eye cup or small plastic cup
Torch (also known as a flashlight)
Instant-acting chemical cold packs
Sterile eye wash (commonly saline)
Sterile saline (used for cleaning wounds where clean tap water is not available)
Swabs, sterile non-woven
Space blanket (lightweight plastic foil blanket, also known as "emergency blanket")
Alcohol rub (hand sanitizer) or antiseptic hand wipes
Thermometer
Penlight

4: Medication

Antiseptics/antimicrobial
Povidone iodine wipes
Benzalkonium Chloride
Alcohol pads - used to prep unbroken skin for injections etc. or to disinfect equipment such as thermometers.
Antibiotic ointment - single, double, or triple antibiotic ointment in petroleum jelly base *Antiseptic/anesthetic ointment or spray
Anti-itch ointment
Hydrocortisone cream
Antihistamine cream, such as benadryl
Calamine lotion
Painkillers / fever reducers
Acetaminophen
Ibuprofen - anti-inflammatory, often more effective that acetaminophen.
Aspirin
Antihistamine
diphenhydramine (brand name Benadryl)
Aloe vera gel - used for a wide variety of skin problems, including burns, sunburns, itching, and dry skin
Burn gel - a water-based gel that acts as a cooling agent and often includes a mild anesthetic such as lidocaine and, sometimes, an antiseptic such as tea tree oil
Epinephrine auto-injector (brand name Epipen) - often included in kits for wilderness use and in places such as summer camps, to treat anaphylactic shock.
Poison treatments
Activated charcoal
Syrup of ipecac
QuikClot is a hemostatic agent sometimes included in first aid kits, especially military kits, to control severe bleeding.

End Of list.

More pratically, here is what we have to deal for our small trips, and therefore a smaller mandatory first aid kit:
1: Cuts --> you need antiseptic + bandages + Straps. Take a lot of sterile gazes, you need it for everythings!
2: Burns --> gel (biafine or equivalent)
3: Sun burn!!! put solar cream in your first aid kit!!!
4: headaches --> aspirin or paracetamol is a must
5: dust and sand in eyes --> any commone saline
6: Twist, Muscular shocks... --> cold pack (very good!) + gel with arnica
7: space cover (used for everything too)
8: a small Swiss knife (you will always look for something to cut!!!)including a tweezer

These items are A MUST HAVE!! and they must be easy to reach in your car (like your fire extinguishers and your jack). You can find everything in Carrefour or in a pharmacy.

Last advices (but not the least),
check the date on your medications! they need to be replaced often...
you can put some batteries in your kit (always usefull!)
Everytime you use something, you have to replace it immediately.
A first aid kit is for everybody. But it's better if everybody has one.

Remember, you cannot reach Zero Accident/incident (even if you must try to come closer and minimize them). What matter is to get ready to face problems. Especially with Children...

You can also get in touch with the main hospitals if you want to have a First Aid training (very useful).

Hope you have found this usefull. Don't hesitate to contact me or to ask for my first aid during a trip.[/quot

thanks Xof I will go for the more practical one. :wink:

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:27 pm
by Bulldozer
Banna be well soon some times we learned the hard way, Thanx guys for he interest & quick reply from all, usually we remember & become cutuise for some time then we forget all about, when u remind ppl in the trips OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH thats the answer if he comply it will be for 5 min then barefoot again What to do :idea: , it must be the hard way

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:00 pm
by Waleed
Thanks JAX for posting a reminder to this issue

Banna , i hope you will be fine soon

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:33 pm
by Sukilala
thanx Jaxs

first aid kit should always be handy, basic one for me, and [xof] good idea for first aid course,
shoes a must but easily forgotten.

banna hope our foot is alright

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 5:04 pm
by Lionbar
Banna, sorry to hear about u'r accident and ISA U'll make a full recovery soon.

On this subject maybe we should reconsider using the disposable type BBQs or anyother that sit so close to the ground. I agree that they are convenient, but they have proven not to be the best choice when u have so many people (incl children) moving around them. Please note that the sand underneath them stays very hot for a very long time after the BBQ has been removed. (plus there is an environmental issue with all that waste).

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 8:26 pm
by agghazal
thanks jakeee for the reminder

Posted: Thu May 15, 2008 9:29 pm
by Mac
Let us have separate BBQ area for safety, All Marshals should monitor this important issue.