THE NEW AD 4x4 LOG BOOK

AD4x4 · Post by **AD4x4** » Thu Jan 24, 2013 9:09 pm

Dear Member,

We are pleased to introduce in the Club the AD4x4 Log Book, which is a new step toward an easier upgrade process and more professional assessment of each member skills.

The log book will include the following:
- information page about each member
- AD 4X4 Liability Statement
- AD 4x4 Rules
- Description of AD 4x4 Grades
- Upgrade qualification for each level / description of process
- Log pages for each trip.

It will allow you to:
- know what skills you need to be upgraded for each level,
- get a feed back from your marshals at the end of each trip when getting your trip signed
- to keep detailed records of all your trips.
- collect the sign off from the marshals
- when requirements completed, entitle you for the upgrade,

In addition to the above, the LOG BOOK will be used as AD 4x4 Membership proof (in correlation with your Driving license card) and will enable you to obtain discounts in our partners outlet upon presentation.

Of course, there will be a transition period, but note that the use of the log book starts with effect from 1st of February, and will be sold by the marshals / explorers during their trips for the amount of 100AED (including one club sticker).

The marshals will give you more details during the briefing of each trips and will help you to fill them your log books.

We trust you will enjoy this new step for a more efficient upgrade system keeping the same fun and safety for all of us.

:ad4x4:

ossme · Post by **ossme** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:33 am

An interesting move.

-V- · Post by **-V-** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:51 am

They are following this log book system in skydive Dubai to keep record of students' development.
Best of luck ad4x4

akhateeb · Post by **akhateeb** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:17 pm

I'm sure we will like it.. Transparent & clear upgrade path with "audited" entries

Unfortunately this means more work to our marshals

everyone jumping on them after the trip for "Autographs" & feedback

.. A question though, can I chase the previous trip leaders to add the details for upgrade considerations? Or previous trips are counted without entries? Is there a cutoff date for this new process?

akhateeb · Post by **akhateeb** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:20 pm

Ok, the cutoff date is 1st FEB, so the question is only about the previous trips..

Serge · Post by **Serge** » Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:19 pm

akhateeb wrote:Ok, the cutoff date is 1st FEB, so the question is only about the previous trips..

No previous trips will be counted.

But its a reason to be more active and enjoy. Are we all there to drive? Or to get upgraded?

Keep enjoying! And have a clear record of your trips from Feb 1st... make sure to always have your logbook on a trip.

iguana · Post by **iguana** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:11 am

The upgrades are not based on number of trips, it's based on skills learned through out several trips .... So the previous history does not mean anything in the upgrade system.

For example one of the requirements of getting upgrade from Newbie to Intermediate is Basic recovery, this does not mean that you have done it once, it means that you can master basic recoveries ... This can be easily deomnistrated in your next trip, if the Marshal see that you are confident and know what you are doing, you will get this skill signed for you

It's a transition period, there will be some draw backs at the begening, I am requesting you all to assist us in making this tranition period smooth and easy

DesertDawg · Post by **DesertDawg** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:09 pm

Hi Iguana.

Great move! One question: where does one get the "trip number" from. Should each trip annoucement have a trip no. from now on?

Dave

Xof · Post by **Xof** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 1:16 pm

hi dave, no this is your trip number... so it will start from 1 for an ANIT, or you can use your quantity of trip done up to now +1...

example: for khaiwi, his fist trip logged on the book, will be trip no. 303...

akhateeb · Post by **akhateeb** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:57 pm

Serge wrote:

No previous trips will be counted.

But its a reason to be more active and enjoy. Are we all there to drive? Or to get upgraded?

Keep enjoying! And have a clear record of your trips from Feb 1st... make sure to always have your logbook on a trip.

Well, we are here to drive.. & dying to get through the newbie & intermediate levels ASAP to join the advanced stuff... So clearing your history while you are joining every possible trip to get the skills & get upgraded to new levels of fun is not fun!

Anyways, I've seen the famous discussion about the recent change in levels, so I know this is just a shout in the space.. I just hope to get through this "transition" periods quick & smooth..

Thanks all for the replies..

desert_hawk · Post by **desert_hawk** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:43 pm

akhateeb wrote:
Serge wrote:

No previous trips will be counted.

But its a reason to be more active and enjoy. Are we all there to drive? Or to get upgraded?

Keep enjoying! And have a clear record of your trips from Feb 1st... make sure to always have your logbook on a trip.
Well, we are here to drive.. & dying to get through the newbie & intermediate levels ASAP to join the advanced stuff... So clearing your history while you are joining every possible trip to get the skills & get upgraded to new levels of fun is not fun!

Anyways, I've seen the famous discussion about the recent change in levels, so I know this is just a shout in the space.. I just hope to get through this "transition" periods quick & smooth..

Thanks all for the replies..

To echo what others has mentioned here and to answer you and others who contacted me and had similar views, In every new improvement plan or move, there is a transitional period, your previous record of trips although it will not count "officially" but your skills, which you own and doesn't necessarily relate to the no of trips you did or will do, do count.

If you have a good look at the log book, you will see that it's more about developing the right set of skills, it's more about quality and not quantity.

To give you an example, if you know how to do a recovery in a safe and smooth manner, and the marshal or explorer has seen you doing so now, and had seen you before, this will prove to him/her that you gained this skill and can easily sign it off for you in the log book; and it will indicate to the trip leader what skills he/she needs to train the members on during the trip to complete the required set of skills required.

As for the number of trips, as iguana and others mentioned, the minimum no of trips will entitles you for upgrade CONSIDERATION, but doesn't mean it entitles you for the upgrade, the no of trips is one indicator, and add to that the other required skills.

Believe me when I say this, and days will prove it to you, you and all the members will appreciate this development in our club as it will give a fair and unified chance for everyone to develop the right skills before moving to the next level, and will make a unified base for all the marshals to assess different members, this way if you go out with any marshal, he/she will assess you according to the same criteria.

History proves that we are all resistant to change by nature, this change has been well thought of for some time now, many similar examples in other activities has been studied thoroughly to produce this effort and I'm sure it will succeed and move AD4x4 to a new and different level.

The above are my personal views and understanding of the subject, any SC member can correct me if I missed or misinterpreted anything.

Xof · Post by **Xof** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:04 pm

like

Dune_Phantom · Post by **Dune_Phantom** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:43 pm

desert_hawk wrote:
akhateeb wrote:
Serge wrote:

No previous trips will be counted.

But its a reason to be more active and enjoy. Are we all there to drive? Or to get upgraded?

Keep enjoying! And have a clear record of your trips from Feb 1st... make sure to always have your logbook on a trip.
Well, we are here to drive.. & dying to get through the newbie & intermediate levels ASAP to join the advanced stuff... So clearing your history while you are joining every possible trip to get the skills & get upgraded to new levels of fun is not fun!

Anyways, I've seen the famous discussion about the recent change in levels, so I know this is just a shout in the space.. I just hope to get through this "transition" periods quick & smooth..

Thanks all for the replies..
To echo what others has mentioned here and to answer you and others who contacted me and had similar views, In every new improvement plan or move, there is a transitional period, your previous record of trips although it will not count "officially" but your skills, which you own and doesn't necessarily relate to the no of trips you did or will do, do count.

If you have a good look at the log book, you will see that it's more about developing the right set of skills, it's more about quality and not quantity.

To give you an example, if you know how to do a recovery in a safe and smooth manner, and the marshal or explorer has seen you doing so now, and had seen you before, this will prove to him/her that you gained this skill and can easily sign it off for you in the log book; and it will indicate to the trip leader what skills he/she needs to train the members on during the trip to complete the required set of skills required.

As for the number of trips, as iguana and others mentioned, the minimum no of trips will entitles you for upgrade CONSIDERATION, but doesn't mean it entitles you for the upgrade, the no of trips is one indicator, and add to that the other required skills.

Believe me when I say this, and days will prove it to you, you and all the members will appreciate this development in our club as it will give a fair and unified chance for everyone to develop the right skills before moving to the next level, and will make a unified base for all the marshals to assess different members, this way if you go out with any marshal, he/she will assess you according to the same criteria.

History proves that we are all resistant to change by nature, this change has been well thought of for some time now, many similar examples in other activities has been studied thoroughly to produce this effort and I'm sure it will succeed and move AD4x4 to a new and different level.

The above are my personal views and understanding of the subject, any SC member can correct me if I missed or misinterpreted anything.

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desert_hawk · Post by **desert_hawk** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:59 pm

Please also note that the log book is not mandatory to buy to participate in ANIT, Newbie trips or the trips in your current level, its your choice and it's simple benefits are (as mentioned above, enjoy the echo

)
1. As club ID to gain access to club discounts with different vendors
2. Regulate any future upgrade for all levels after its implementation

Don't think it's only for members, I got my logbook and I'm planning to record all my trips in it, it will be fun, lets see if I can finish the pages during 2013

Whatever you do, always remember that we go out to the desert to have FUN first, meet new and old friends, and learn also; "stars don't make the driver, the driver makes the stars"

DesertDawg · Post by **DesertDawg** » Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:27 pm

hi dave, no this is your trip number...